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image by eljko Heimer, 31 March 2001
image by eljko Heimer, 31 March 2001
there is an official text concerning the flag and the emblem of
the Olympic Croatian Committee, but I didn't understand the text.
. I don't know how the flag looks like, probably white with the
logo at the top of the page.
Pascal Vagnat, 8 December 1998
Usually they call themselves in English "Croatian Olympic
Committee" - COC in short. Let me see what is there to
provide some translation. It is "Pravilnik o zastavi i znaku
Hrvatskog olimpijskog odbora" - Rules on flag and symbol of
Art. 6 detrmines the flag: "The flag of COC is determined with COC Graphic Standards Manual. The flag background is white with centrally set COC symbol. The flag format [i.e. size, ratio. ZH] is defined by standards set for the flags. The flag colour is also determined by the COC Graphic Standards Manual."
Art. 7 prescribes that COC flag should always be used with the flag of the Republic of Croatia.
Art. 8. defined the COC symbol: "The basic graphic standard of COC visual identity is COC symbol approved by the International Olympic Commettee on 24-APR-1992 (letter no 2110/92/jm9). The symbol is unique grapic presentation of five olympic rings, six red and three white squares and text "Hrvatski olimpijski odbor" on white background bordered in shape of a shield."
I'll check the flag on COC building in next few days, I use to pass over there often and the flags are always hoisted on it (left to right IOC, HR, COC). It seems that national olympic symbols (or any other using olympic rings) should be approved by IOC.
Another point that I have regarding this article is "three white squares", which are very often wrongly made transparent, so to say, and symbol under rings consists only of six red squares. The same error is made also on the COC page with this Rules (sic!).
Art 15. determined that this Rules becomes vaild with the day of their acceptance, and that is 10-SEP-1993. Possibly similar set of rules was adopted earlier, and these rules did not chance the essence of it, regarding the look of the flag and symbol. In any case, I believe that the symbol is in use from 1991, but this is based on my memory.
eljko Heimer, 8 December 1998
I was talking recently with some people involved with the work
on the Croatian Olympic Commeette logo (and flag) almost a decade
ago. I was told some things that might be of interest and maybe
worth of further investigation.
The story is so: the logo of COC that was initially adopted consisted of the five Olympic rings above the red sqaures in three rows 3, 2, 1. When this logo was sent to International Olympic Committee for approval, it was turned down, with explanation that the Olymipc rings should not be bigger then one third of the national Olympic logo. After that the logo was enclosed into red bordered white shield with blue inscription reading the name of the COC, and such was adopted and approved. As the flag is a white sheet with the logo in the middle, the consequences to the COC flag are obvious.
eljko Heimer, 21 October 2000
The "de facto" flag that is used much more often
(and hoisted dayly on the COC headquarters in Zagreb) is a
variation which is, I believe the design turned down by IOC (due
to the size of the Olympic logo). HOO stands for "Hrvatski
olimpijski odbor" - Croatian Olympic Committee.
eljko Heimer, 31 March 2001
image Zachary Harden and eljko Heimer, 17 August 2004
Flag that was used by the Croats when they walked into Athens
last Friday night.
Zachary Harden, 17 August 2004
image by eljko Heimer
Chequy flag with one cheque being chequed again was used by
football supporter during European chapionship England 1996.
image by eljko Heimer
On the TV there were reportages from everywhere that our team
was moving around, and that special one I saw when they came back
from a game (3:0 win over Germany) to the city that was host them
during the World Cup 98 - Vittel. The city organized magnificent
recepion, and the players were driving with turist train arround
the city celebrating. On the train, and on some other places
arround, there was a remarkable flag, obviously used as
decoration rather then supposed to be real national flag. I
consisted of 5 stripes, the inner three being the Croatian
national flag, while
the outer two were made of chequy fields.
eljko Heimer , 9 July 1998
.I might add that this same flag pattern was used soon
afterwards, as Croatia gained the thrid place at the Cup, also
there were post stamps (small sheet of 4) showing the victorious
team holding such flags . It was used again, I believe in several
other sporting events as a flag that the supporters used.
eljko Heimer , 9 August 1999
The footbal (soccer) frenzzy is epidemic in Croatia and even
more so with the initial good results against Austria and
Anyway, the novelty flags that are attached from the car windows on a small staff are in this year for the first time in Croatia - they have not been usual until now. They are produced by several companies, apparently, since there are several designs to be seen, on which I shall report below. I would guess that they were produced somewhere in the far east as the designs of the national Coat of Arms in the flag are rather poor quality and misplaced/oversized...
Basically there are two general designs that are being used as the car (window) flags, each with several variants:
A) national flag
- in ratio 2:3, rougly sized 30x45 cm, with oversized Coat of Arms (entering the blue stripe with 1.5 rows of "squares" in the chequy shield)
- similar, but with some comercial message printed on the white heading on the staff (I was unable to see the commercial up close)
- similar, but with some kind of commercial ad printed in the middle of the fly part of the blue stripe (kind of red oblong rectangle with white letters, but I could not make it out what).
Such defacing of the national flag is against all the Croatian laws* and good practice, but it seems that none have publicly objected.
- also similar, but in size ca. 15x22 cm, apparently with better looking Coat of Arms
B) supporters flag (as it is being advertised in media)
- in ratio ca. 2:3, roughly sized 30x45 cm in chequy patern (i.e. the banner of arms) in several varinats of the number of squares:
- 4x6 squares, staring with red in the canton, the first square also including the logo of the newspapers Ve?ernji list
- 6x10 squares, starting with white, although I have possibly miscounted the number of cheques
- somewhat different variant, being wite flag with chequy border of two rows of squares around the edges, haven't had chance to count the squares exactly, but I estmate some 10x20, with blue "3D" effect letters reding HRVATSKA over the top chequy border and CROATIA over the bottom
- the same flag seems to have been printed with some aditional logos in the white central panel, one i noticed including the logo of the national footbal association
Also, larger flags for hoisting from the houses are being sold, in size 50x100 cm, again in two variants - the national flag and the "supporters" flag. I had no chance to see them in reality, but judging from the drawings in the newspaper ads for those
- the national flag has badly centered Coat of Arms of poor drawing (the "crown" being partiall in white and partially in red stripe, and again entering blue stripoe too much - as if someone centered Coat of Arms outscribing rectange in the middle of the flag - a common mistake of the poor Corel users pasting the Coat of Arms drawing in the middle fo the stripes)
- the supporters flag consists of 9x14 squares, the canton one being white
The previously popular flags of pattern with the national flag along the horizontal center and having several rows of chequy squares atop and in the bottom of it does not seem to have been used much in regard with this Euro, although I am sure that a number of suporters owning such flag would take it along as well as that such is being sold where it was being sold before (flag maker's shops and kiosks selling supporters items)
The firstly mentioned car window flags are extremly popular and it seems (based on my rough estimate and not by any serious study) that almost each 3rd or 4th car in Zagreb in the streets is being equipped with at least one (and usually two, less frequently even with four) of them, more on the days when Croatia is playing, of course.
* Such flags are, at least by the letter of the law illegal and the police, if they would bother, might take action against them. Such offence is in Croatia finable, depending upon a law unto which the jugde may find it offences, up til 300 DEM (Law on Coat of Arms, flag etc.1990, with fines ammended in 93 and 94) or by jail between 3 month and 3 years (Penal Code, 1997 with numerous amendments). Some other counties having rugh fines against such that comes to mind is Portugal (Penal Code 1982, amended 2007) with fines up to 2 years imprisonment or 240 day of financial fine, and Germany (Penal Code, 1998, amended 2007) providing 3 years inprisonment. However, I doubt that any of this would be used much in this sence.
eljko Heimer, 15 June 2008
image by António Martins-Tuválkin and eljko Heimer, 2 July 2008
"RESPECT" flags distributed by UEFA to the
supporters. Those "RESPECT" national flags have a
vertical white stripe added along the hoist, charged with the
emblem of the Championships and "RESPECT". The emblem
can be seen in full colours on the Euro2008 official
Ivan Sache, 28 June 2008
2nd Military World Games (MWG)
image by eljko Heimer, 20 August 1999
The International Military Sports Council (CISM) is a military
organization comaprable with the Olimpic organization. Their flag
consist of a white, blue bordered flag with the CISM logo in the
middle. The logo consists a globe surounded with a band bearing
the name of the organization, behind is is a composition
consisting of five red rings, a downpointing sword, a golden
laurel wreat and shord points. It seems that only the vertical
version is used.
The flag was used in Zagreb lately, in connection with the 2nd Military World Games (MWG), held from 8 to 17 August 1999. The blue bordered flag seems to be official, but as far as I have noticed, it was only used on opening and closing ceremonies, while on other places (stadiums etc. and in city) the simple white "logo on bedsheet" flags were used.
The 2nd MWG used a white "logo on bedsheet" is consisting of two red squares and five "3D" rings. Read more about CISM and 2 MWG on thier site <www.2svi.hr> and <www.2svi.hr/eng/02-cism.htm>.
eljko Heimer , 20 August 1999
See also: Conseil International du Sport Militaire - International Military Sports Council (CISM)
image by eljko Heimer , 29 December 2000
A football (soccer) club from Osijek, Croatia - NK Osijek. (NK
means "nogometni klub", i.e. FC). The club emblem is
obviously based on the Coat of Arms of Osijek
and Baranja County, probably a bit overmuch according to some
heradical tastes, but such practice seem not to be unusual in
Croatia (many sport clubs have emblems very similar or equal to
the city or county they are from). The flag is BWB tricolour. The
colour combination of blue-white is the club colours. Not
unexpected, the supporters use the two colours in unnumerable
combinations as flags and weavers used on stadium.
Source: Croatian TV news, 28 December 2000, report from the annual assembly of the club. Emblem taken from Kohorta (supporters) pages at <www.nogomet.com/kohorta>.
eljko Heimer, 29 December 2000
image by Pavel, 3 August 2006
Do you have information about this flag seen in a photo of
"Istra" (Pula,Croatia) football fans?
Pavel, 3 August 2006
It is definitely green and yellow, and probably have some
aditional emblems in the yellow part. This is (one of the) flag
of the supporters of the footbal (soccer) club from Pula named
nowdays NK Pula Staro Ceko (previously known as NK Pula
1856, NK Pula, Nk Istra, NK Uljanik etc.), since 2004 in the
First Croatian League. The supporters group is named Demoni Pula.
Obviously other flags are in use including green yellow and black combinations, as is visible on the same photo.
eljko Heimer, 3 August 2006
The flag of the swim club "plivacki klub JADRAN"
from Split can be seen at <www.pk-jadran.hr>
Dov Gutterman, 22 January 2002
I don't see any connection to civic (or other) symbols. Of
course, choice of colours red-white-blue is not coincidence. The
flag looks much like sailing club burgee, and I would almost
think that there must be some such yacht club around. (On the
other hand, there is YC Split, using entirely different flag)
eljko Heimer, 31 January 2002
image from <www.panoramio.com>
The (possible) flag of TUNERA - Sea-related sports
association, located in Supetarska Draga, Island of Rab, Croatia.
From Association website which also shows the association flags as a background: "The organization for promotion of all sport recreational sea activities and the protection of coastal flora and fauna like fishing,diving,sailing,rowing,beach volleyball, ecological actions of brushing the coast and the sea etc."
The same flag with English text is shown at <www.panoramio.com>.
Valentin Poposki, 26 February 2009
While visiting Croatian coast these days I noticed that there are many red over yellow flags hoisted on various beaches (and I visited a few in the last few days). I wandered what these are and finally found in a security brochure here:
image by Marcus Schmöger, 24 September 2001
- red flag - "don't enter the water - danger"
image by Marcus Schmöger, 24 September 2001
- red-yellow flag - "between two red-yellow flags is area under lifeguards surveillance - the area safe for swimming"
I am sure that the exact "names" of this flags would
be a bit simpler - as this seems to be educational brochure
rather then normative.
Of course, one would ask where these flags come from and what's the use of them if nobody knows what they are - I have searched quite extensivly around beaches and in hotel lobbies if there is somewhere a poster explaining these flags, but I found nothing. Also, I am not aware of any regulation requiering this flags in Croatia (but maybe there is?), in any case, it seems to me that this is a news from this summer - at least I noticed these not before.
It seems that they are related to the flags used in Britain. The last paragraphs on that page suggest that they may be some EU directive standardizing this two flags in the whole EU!?
eljko Heimer, 16 August 2007
Flags are not a frequent thing to spot in Croatia, apart from
the FEEE blue flag indicating the
quality, that is present on very many beaches in Croatia.
eljko Heimer, 11 September 2007
See also: Beach flags